S1E8: mesopotamia

Sometimes people with very similar experiences come away with different outlooks, it's no different with war. In this episode I talk with a fellow veteran about our experiences in combat and how that brought him to an anti-war stance. It's an important conversation to have and I know you'll agree.

Mesopotamia

By Rudyard Kipling, 1917

They shall not return to us, the resolute, the young,

    The eager and whole-hearted whom we gave:

But the men who left them thriftily to die in their own dung,

    Shall they come with years and honour to the grave?

 

They shall not return to us, the strong men coldly slain

    In sight of help denied from day to day:

But the men who edged their agonies and chid them in their pain,

    Are they too strong and wise to put away?

 

Our dead shall not return to us while Day and Night divide—

    Never while the bars of sunset hold.

But the idle-minded overlings who quibbled while they died,

    Shall they thrust for high employments as of old?

 

Shall we only threaten and be angry for an hour?

    When the storm is ended shall we find

How softly but how swiftly they have sidled back to power

    By the favour and contrivance of their kind?

 

Even while they soothe us, while they promise large amends,

    Even while they make a show of fear,

Do they call upon their debtors, and take counsel with their friends,

    To conform and re-establish each career?

 

Their lives cannot repay us—their death could not undo—

    The shame that they have laid upon our race.

But the slothfulness that wasted and the arrogance that slew,

    Shall we leave it unabated in its place?

Danny with five other West Point classmates of ours all in the same unit.

Danny with his son, who he talked about during the show.

I love this pic, it is Danny in Afghanistan taking the low ground to get bearings. I remember so many moments like this in both deployments.

Here's a good picture of Danny currently.

Featured Links

Skeptical Vet  - Danny's website featuring links to all his writing.

Fortress On A Hill - Podcast where Danny discusses current events and features interviews with both experts and contemporaries.

Patriotic Dissent - The upcoming book Danny is prepping for release which covers his plea for a reconsideration of our classical view of patriotism.

Ghost Riders of Baghdad - Danny's first book which recounts experiences in Iraq which led him to his current positions.

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